Hello Roger,
Your "Orissa", was she known as "Lewis
Alias Dean", or vice versa, or "Dean" using the alias and no
other attached name?
I do not dispute your point, believe me, but there are records that incorporate the "Alias" in the official name, and this is slightly differentto being known by another name.
There are no doubt other reasons for the "Alias" being part of an officialname and hopefully someone will tell us someday.
All the best.
I do not dispute your point, believe me, but there are records that incorporate the "Alias" in the official name, and this is slightly differentto being known by another name.
There are no doubt other reasons for the "Alias" being part of an officialname and hopefully someone will tell us someday.
All the best.
Richard
From: "Roger Lewis" < rnplewis@sgi.net>
To: < Bristol_and_Somerset-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 5:32 AM
Subject:Help requested. ALLEN, BARNES, CLARKE, MILLARD & SAVAGE.
Perhaps I can add a reason for an alias. What about a person who was raised by his/her godparents, because of being left an orphan, and who therefore became known by the godparents' surname, even though never formally adopted?
>A case in point is my late aunt, born Orissa Mary Eleanor LEWIS in Port Stanley, Falkland Islands in 1893, eldest child of my grandfather William James LEWIS and his first wife, Beatrice LUXTON. Beatrice died in 1895, of an infection contracted following the birth of her second child. Orissa ("Rissie") was taken in by her godparents, the DEANs. She remained with the Deans even after her father remarried twelve years later, and was known as "Orissa Dean" until her marriage in, IIRC, 1915.
I have also found several similar cases in eastern Europe while
researching my wife's family, so apparently the practice was quite widespread.
Roger Lewis, in windy, rainy, snowy Pennsylvania, USA
To: < Bristol_and_Somerset-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 5:32 AM
Subject:Help requested. ALLEN, BARNES, CLARKE, MILLARD & SAVAGE.
Perhaps I can add a reason for an alias. What about a person who was raised by his/her godparents, because of being left an orphan, and who therefore became known by the godparents' surname, even though never formally adopted?
>A case in point is my late aunt, born Orissa Mary Eleanor LEWIS in Port Stanley, Falkland Islands in 1893, eldest child of my grandfather William James LEWIS and his first wife, Beatrice LUXTON. Beatrice died in 1895, of an infection contracted following the birth of her second child. Orissa ("Rissie") was taken in by her godparents, the DEANs. She remained with the Deans even after her father remarried twelve years later, and was known as "Orissa Dean" until her marriage in, IIRC, 1915.
I have also found several similar cases in eastern Europe while
researching my wife's family, so apparently the practice was quite widespread.
Roger Lewis, in windy, rainy, snowy Pennsylvania, USA
From: "Brian Morgan" < brian.morgan9@btinternet.com>
To: < Bristol_and_Somerset-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Help requested. ALLEN, BARNES, CLARKE, MILLARD & SAVAGE.
I don't think you can take that as a norm. We have several examples of people who were quite clearly not illegitimate who used an alias and it seemed to be done on familial lines. We don't know the reason and just have to accept that it was done for reasons we can't sensibly guess at.
To: < Bristol_and_Somerset-L@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: Help requested. ALLEN, BARNES, CLARKE, MILLARD & SAVAGE.
I don't think you can take that as a norm. We have several examples of people who were quite clearly not illegitimate who used an alias and it seemed to be done on familial lines. We don't know the reason and just have to accept that it was done for reasons we can't sensibly guess at.
Sorry not to be moor helpful but they didn't leave us any notes!
Brian Morgan
Brian Morgan
From:
Roger V. Lewis< rlewis@wab.wabco-rail.com
>
Subject: Re: From Britain to Falkland Is./ Patagonia
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 18:16:09 -0400 Subject: RE: From Britain to Falkland Is./ Patagonia
Date: Saturday, April 26, 1997 5:09 PM
Hi Roger,
I was very interested in your letter regarding your ancestors' emigration to South America with the Rev bridges. Are you aware of the book which Bridges wrote viz.
Main Author: Bridges, E. Lucas
Title Details: Uttermost part of the earth : Indians of Tierra del Fuego / by E. Lucas Bridges ; introduction by A. F. Tschiffely
Publisher: New York : Dover Publications, 1988
ISBN/ISSN: 0486257517
Subject(s): Bridges, E. Lucas
Bridges, E. Lucas, 1874-1949
Fuegians Ranchers - Tierra del Fuego (Argentina and Chile) -
Biography Tierra del Fuego (Argentina and Chile) - Description and travel . Document Type: Autobiography ,Language: English
Holding Libraries: Cambridge ; Oxford
You should be able to borrow it via the Inter-library loan scheme. I checked the above details on Cambridge University's On-line catalogue but I am sure there are other locations.
Also I should be interested if you find any contacts on the falkland Islands as I have noticed in the census (1871 or 1881) for bremhill in Wiltshire that there were several people born there and I have often wondered what the connection was -- probably military service.
Have you seen my web pages; I have several references there to research in Argentina and Uruguay which might help you. It is at:- http://homepages.enterprise.net/hrhenly/
Cheers
Bob Henly
Hello,Bob
Many thanks for all your information. Yes, I know the book "Uttermost Part of the Earth"; in fact I have a copy given to me by my late cousin Douglas Pole-Evans. My great-grandparents are briefly mentioned on pages 52, 57 and 67; my family's opinion is that the author, E. Lucas Bridges (Rev. Thomas Bridges' eldest son), did not really give his father's helpers the credit they deserved - in other words, that the Lawrences, the Lewises and Jacob Resyck (or Rissik, as it has also been recorded) did a lot more for the mission than is described in the book (e.g., Bridges flatly states that Frank Ushuaia Lewis was born on Keppel Island; the Lewis family tradition has always been that Eleanor Lewis *sailed* for Keppel, but that great-uncle Frank was born on board, and in the confusion the captain omitted to log the vessel's position at the time of the baby's birth. This
later caused the problem with establishing his nationality, since the waters of Ushuaia bay were at the time disputed between Argentina and Chile, and the schooner was British. Also, my great-grandfather was not just "a carpenter", as mentioned by Bridges, but was by trade a joiner – a couple of skill steps above a carpenter - and also taught mathematics and
bricklaying at a trade school in Bristol; Rev. Bridges is reputed to have met him through his wife, as Mary Varder Bridges and Eleanor Britten Lewis are said to have been close friends well before their marriages). I am inclined to be a little more charitable about E. Lucas Bridges, since he had to base the early part of the book on his father's journals, and these were probably rather abbreviated; it would have been very time-consuming for the Rev. Bridges to record every little incident of daily life, and Lucas Bridges could not depend on his own memory for the story of those very early days, since he was not even born yet.
Yes, also, I found your web pages - in fact, it was from them that I got the SOUTH-AM-EMI list subscription information. Unfortunately, I am in a position that is all too common today: the company I work for has become so "lean and mean" that I have no assistant, secretary, or anyone like that, and consequently have almost no spare time in which to indulge my hobbies (such as family history). The web at least gives me a chance to do little bits and pieces whenever I have a couple of minutes to spare.
I will be sure to let you know if and when I make any contacts in the Falklands. Cheers,
Roger Lewis
Subject: Re: From Britain to Falkland Is./ Patagonia
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 18:16:09 -0400 Subject: RE: From Britain to Falkland Is./ Patagonia
Date: Saturday, April 26, 1997 5:09 PM
Hi Roger,
I was very interested in your letter regarding your ancestors' emigration to South America with the Rev bridges. Are you aware of the book which Bridges wrote viz.
Main Author: Bridges, E. Lucas
Title Details: Uttermost part of the earth : Indians of Tierra del Fuego / by E. Lucas Bridges ; introduction by A. F. Tschiffely
Publisher: New York : Dover Publications, 1988
ISBN/ISSN: 0486257517
Subject(s): Bridges, E. Lucas
Bridges, E. Lucas, 1874-1949
Fuegians Ranchers - Tierra del Fuego (Argentina and Chile) -
Biography Tierra del Fuego (Argentina and Chile) - Description and travel . Document Type: Autobiography ,Language: English
Holding Libraries: Cambridge ; Oxford
You should be able to borrow it via the Inter-library loan scheme. I checked the above details on Cambridge University's On-line catalogue but I am sure there are other locations.
Also I should be interested if you find any contacts on the falkland Islands as I have noticed in the census (1871 or 1881) for bremhill in Wiltshire that there were several people born there and I have often wondered what the connection was -- probably military service.
Have you seen my web pages; I have several references there to research in Argentina and Uruguay which might help you. It is at:- http://homepages.enterprise.net/hrhenly/
Cheers
Bob Henly
Hello,Bob
Many thanks for all your information. Yes, I know the book "Uttermost Part of the Earth"; in fact I have a copy given to me by my late cousin Douglas Pole-Evans. My great-grandparents are briefly mentioned on pages 52, 57 and 67; my family's opinion is that the author, E. Lucas Bridges (Rev. Thomas Bridges' eldest son), did not really give his father's helpers the credit they deserved - in other words, that the Lawrences, the Lewises and Jacob Resyck (or Rissik, as it has also been recorded) did a lot more for the mission than is described in the book (e.g., Bridges flatly states that Frank Ushuaia Lewis was born on Keppel Island; the Lewis family tradition has always been that Eleanor Lewis *sailed* for Keppel, but that great-uncle Frank was born on board, and in the confusion the captain omitted to log the vessel's position at the time of the baby's birth. This
later caused the problem with establishing his nationality, since the waters of Ushuaia bay were at the time disputed between Argentina and Chile, and the schooner was British. Also, my great-grandfather was not just "a carpenter", as mentioned by Bridges, but was by trade a joiner – a couple of skill steps above a carpenter - and also taught mathematics and
bricklaying at a trade school in Bristol; Rev. Bridges is reputed to have met him through his wife, as Mary Varder Bridges and Eleanor Britten Lewis are said to have been close friends well before their marriages). I am inclined to be a little more charitable about E. Lucas Bridges, since he had to base the early part of the book on his father's journals, and these were probably rather abbreviated; it would have been very time-consuming for the Rev. Bridges to record every little incident of daily life, and Lucas Bridges could not depend on his own memory for the story of those very early days, since he was not even born yet.
Yes, also, I found your web pages - in fact, it was from them that I got the SOUTH-AM-EMI list subscription information. Unfortunately, I am in a position that is all too common today: the company I work for has become so "lean and mean" that I have no assistant, secretary, or anyone like that, and consequently have almost no spare time in which to indulge my hobbies (such as family history). The web at least gives me a chance to do little bits and pieces whenever I have a couple of minutes to spare.
I will be sure to let you know if and when I make any contacts in the Falklands. Cheers,
Roger Lewis



